we wanted to see him stammering and blubbering like john boehner leaving production of les miserables. he denied bribing teammates and bribing people and denied doing steroids since 2006. coincidently the last year that the statute of limitations apply. he was lying all over the place. i don't think he helped himself at all last night. i came away liking him less than i did before the interview. >> bill: gutfeld, he has got legal problems all over the place. we talked about this with our is it legal duo earlier in the week. this makes it worse. because he basically is saying, you know, i sued the times of london, for example, he won a judgment. half a million dollars. but i was lying. the story they had was right. and i did it and now people suing him. i think there is a hair person or a masseuse or somebody who said look, he did it, and he went after her, and all of this business. now he loses all of those cases. and if he didn't say anything, at least he would have a chance. >> well, you know what? he only has one option left. and that is to enter politics. clearly he he has the pre